Clays in spawn?

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Ladies and Gents,

I just don't feel it is my place as a totally newcomer to post this question.

24/7 Overgrown Spawn points is the issue here. I've spend most of today on the server warning players about the clays in the spawns (get ignored) so I think I actually kicked (!W) three of the players that are persistently placing clays at the bottom of those wide wooden stairs. I had to do it because other players started showing some discontent with me just asking the players to stop doing it.

I hate kicking a player (one less to kill), but I feel that if you warned said player informally for the third time, you should surely start to formally warn him/her so that b3 can do the kick.

Am I doing the right thing here by first trying to reprimand a player or should I not waste the time doing so and go straight to !w?

Regards

Johan.
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I would say yes you are doing the right thing as they just don't care some of them:o
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I think there are 2 issues here. New players that break rules and old players that know our rules and still do it.

Our job is to make the servers a fun and enjoyable place to come and play. To do this, we have to make the servers as cheat free as possible, and also inform guests of our rules. If players see we are doing this, they usually see our servers as one to add to their favourites list and hopefully return.
The players that come to our server for the 1st time, aren't aware of our rules, and so may bunny hop or do this or that, that are against our rules. We would definitely not want to see an official (!w) warning for that. We need to just civilly inform the player that that is against our rules, then bang the @rules up. Sometimes its a habit and they find it hard, we need to take all that on board. Bad words or abuse is different, but the bot usually sorts that.
Also the 3 warnings don't all need to be !w offical. Sometimes 2 reminders to a player that is against our rules and then a kick may be better, if we don't want the player to be away for 6 minutes. Sometimes thats all it takes for them to get the picture. But I don't think its ever a waste of time trying to explain things to anyone. Tbanning should be a very last resort..

Then we have the 2nd issue. These are the players that have been on our servers a while, know the rules but stiil break them. This is different, these guys need it made clear in a civil way, that their temp bans will get longer if they continues breaking the rules, thus ruining it for every one. The b3 will automatically increase the time of their bans to a certain degree, if they get quite a few warnings. But if its getting rediculous. Just let Wax or myself know and we will look at Echelon and deal with it. I have no issues with a straight !w for the players that know the rules but frequantly break them.




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Thanks Tube - make sense to me.
I am in discussion with a player that was not happy that I warned him before using !w and he is seeing the light now.
I complimented him on being a good player and that he don't have to break rules.
This is the discussion:

Dooonald
Hi Forged,
today in OGHF-OVERGROWN SERVER you tell me "CLAY NEAR SPAWN".....i use position near stairs in the house at street side.
why ? Spawnplace under stairs - ok, but respawned players can go out there without damage if clay is in this direction. If i use clay with laserbeams in other direction i understand its a foul....but i think, in my direction its ok ?!?!?! PLS dont understand wrong - You are the admin here - and every admin has a different opinion. But maybe you can think it over again. Or I learn something :-) For better understanding, I've added a video (DOWNLOAD LINK). I would like it if we exchange and discuss. By the way - I am leading a group in FACEBOOK with the name COD 444 (Facebook group COD 444) This group is for all clans, gamers and admins to exchange about these questions and more - reviews of clans, servers, players and everything else. The group serves the preservation of the COD4 game. I would be happy to invite you and other OGHF members to the event. Nice Greetings Dooonald aka Daisy :-) Here is the link to the video download https://www.magentacloud.de/share/lvr6gr394v

ForgedInWar
Sorry for that but you listened immediately - that is just one of the rules and it is for all spawns - no clays close or in a spawn. I've been a admin here for a short while and before I also got kicked for clay at that point. Most players don't use clay near other spawns except at those stairs. Players like Alex and JDR always go straight for that spot because it works. You are a good player and don't need to put clay in spawn.

Regards

Johan.
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I know I am having a blonde moment but can you kick them Forged or only warn?:o
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Cat I can do both
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oh nice I knew that really NOT lol:D
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opps I did not no you are admin
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ty punto m8 but all I get is Sorry, but the post that you are trying to access is not available.https://www.oghf.org.uk/index.php/discussions/forgedinwar
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The way I see it is that clays in spawn is only an issue if they are going to go off as someone spawns - almost like a spawn camping by proxy? (the proxy being the clay). If the clay is pointing the other way can this really be an issue? The player spawning should be aware and deal with the clay?

I have been playing CoD4 for eons and I still dont know where the spawn points are so I would be terrible at avoiding spawn points...But none of my load outs have Clays anyway...
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I see clays boardering spawns but pointing away an issue to as i'm a rush type of player as soon as i spawn im already running so bang the clay takes you out so imo is also not fair use of clays
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the clay is pointing the other way can this really be an issue. YES its a clay in the spawn m8 and it's not allowed you old git :D :D :D :D :D
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I think the real issue is. Players spawn, then without moving an inch. (25mm), the very1st thing they do is plant a clay. That should be the very last thing players should be doing. In any direction.
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I really dont see it as a problem - if its pointing the other way, then you can do something about it. not if its pointing at the spawn though. Seems a legitimate tactic to me and no different to putting a clay at the top of stairs or behind a doorway (or anywhere else there is likely to be some foot traffic).
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:p :D ;)
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and that's not me I don't like sniper rifles unless an absolute emergency lol:D
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Those stairs are fine - normal setting in that area.
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Its not me i copied it lol
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Oh and Forged I always pick Marines:p
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Don't tell anyone or I might get done for copyright lol I will have to charge it to Robby:o ;) :p
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